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    Thumbs down Honda Odyssey 02 Trans slips, any others?

    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. Has 40k now. A lot of highway miles to visit kids. Asked during required trans oil chage about the transmission not shifting as smooth as before. Dealer said there is no problem. The trans started to slip between gears and let the motor rev up until you took your foot off the gas. The dealer now said that thte transmission needs to be replaced. They do not work on any parts of the transmission and only swap out the transmission with a rebuilt unit. They want $5200 to do this. I said this is unacceptable. Told to call Honda 800 number to see if Honda will pay. I was told they will have a rep call back. Three days latter a rep did call to get iformation on the problem. They want to talk to the dealer who changed the transmission oil. This was 2 days ago.

    This car was not driven in city traffic. I think the transmission can not take the 240HP. I also see that the extended the warranty of 2000 and 2001 odyssey transmissions.

    Does anyone else have this problem with their Odyssey?

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    Similar troubles

    My wife and I own a 2002 Odyssey. Our transmission failed at ~45,000 miles. Weeks of letter writing and phone calls were required to get the cost of replacement covered by either Honda or the company which provided the extended warranty, both of which were unresponsive at best - more frequently plainly rude.

    I drive the car much less than my wife and have never experienced its worst symptoms, but today I was driving on a mountain highway in a rainstorm and on several occasions, as I was applying brakes at highway speed, the tranny downshifted early. The added engine braking made for a couple of awkward moments. This is the first I have noticed of this but my wife said she had noticed it developing in transmission number one before its failure.

    I am no transmission expert, but, it seems like the failings are in selecting the wrong gear (no upshifts, early downshifts) or making sluggish shifts. Perhaps this means that the problems are not the result of friction elements (clutches & bands) not being up to the task of 240hp, but instead that either software, or hydraulic control circuits or related components are not up to their tasks. I am way out of my depth in saying that but I have been thinking about this for a while now and I offer that as my current thinking.

    Anyway, my wife is currently sleeping or I'd get more details down. I will try to make that happen later, in the meantime check this link:
    http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showth...threadid=15431

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    try this thread instead

    http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showth...&threadid=8574

    There is more concrete information in the above thread. It looks like it is premature wear of a clutch. Read the postings from "Don Hopp" and especially "accordian".

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    lemon/this is odd

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Clark
    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. Has 40k now. A lot of highway miles to visit kids. Asked during required trans oil chage about the transmission not shifting as smooth as before. Dealer said there is no problem. The trans started to slip between gears and let the motor rev up until you took your foot off the gas. The dealer now said that thte transmission needs to be replaced. They do not work on any parts of the transmission and only swap out the transmission with a rebuilt unit. They want $5200 to do this. I said this is unacceptable. Told to call Honda 800 number to see if Honda will pay. I was told they will have a rep call back. Three daatalk to the dealer who changed the transmission oil. This was 2 days ago.

    This car was not driven in city traffic. I think the transmission can not take the 240HP. I also see that the extended the warranty of 2000 and 2001 odyssey transmissions.

    Does anyone else have this problem with their Odyssey?


    I don't think that this is a design flaw, I think that you just have a messed up tranny that needs to be replaced or rebuilt I don't have one of these ars but I don't think I've ever heard of a broblem like this one. Get the new tranny.

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    Replaced or Rebuild Tranny

    Can anyone explain me what is a difference between replacing and rebuilding Tranny. What is better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaquel
    Can anyone explain me what is a difference between replacing and rebuilding Tranny. What is better?

    getting the tranny replaced would include you getting a rebuilt transmission from the dealer. Rebuilding the transmission would include you getting that very tranny rebuilt. They would take it all apart and build it from the ground up again and possibly give you some new parts. The dealer may tell you that you are getting a new tranny if you go with replacing.. but it will most likely be a rebuild.
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    Thumbs down Odyssey Transmissions

    I have a 2002 Odyssey with 35k miles. Very recently I've experience my transmission slipping on acceleration and hills. It's in the shop as I'm typing this. The Honda technician says the transmission will have to be replaced. He says that Honda has admitted quietly that the transmission is not ideal with the 240 HP engine. The vehicle weight, the engine HP and typical driving patterns create the problem. Honda is claiming 2% failure rate. They added extended warranties to the 2000 and 2001 years because of this problem. They haven't added the extended warranty to the 02 model yet but the technician expects Honda will. But no guarantees. If you're on the standard warranty and have more than 36k miles, keep fighting with Honda if your transmission fails. They may still cover the cost. Honda service will not rebuild the transmission. They will only replace.
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    I have a 2000 Odyssey the Tranny just went out yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by mojojojo3698
    I have a 2002 Odyssey with 35k miles. Very recently I've experience my transmission slipping on acceleration and hills. It's in the shop as I'm typing this. The Honda technician says the transmission will have to be replaced. He says that Honda has admitted quietly that the transmission is not ideal with the 240 HP engine. The vehicle weight, the engine HP and typical driving patterns create the problem. Honda is claiming 2% failure rate. They added extended warranties to the 2000 and 2001 years because of this problem. They haven't added the extended warranty to the 02 model yet but the technician expects Honda will. But no guarantees. If you're on the standard warranty and have more than 36k miles, keep fighting with Honda if your transmission fails. They may still cover the cost. Honda service will not rebuild the transmission. They will only replace.

    You say that they exteneded warranties on the 2000 and 2001, my 2000's just went out. Up to how many miles will they cover replacement? I am so upset now my wife wants a new vehicle! PEASE HELP !

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    2000 Oydessey problem, looking for help!

    Dose any one have any good news about what to do about this big mess, up to now all I ever heard about Honda was they are the best Automotive company. Man would Toyota love to hear about our problem so that they can rube it in thier face!

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    Unhappy Honda Odyssey 02 Transmission problems

    I own a 2002 Odyssey purchased in Feb, 2002.

    At 45,000 mi my wife started complaining about the transmission not shifting properly between 2nd and 3rd gear. The engine would rev above its normal shift rpm and shift hard into 3rd gear or shift into neutral and not go into 3rd gear for 2-3 seconds and only if you let-off the accelerator to idle.

    My wife took it to the dealer and the problem was not reproduced. I do not believe the mechanic believed her about the problem. The dealer said there was no problem and Odyssey's have not had any problems with the tranmissions.

    Since driving it myself, I have experienced the problem and it occurs on a daily basis. I have reduced the frequency of the occurrence by letting off the accelerator just as the rpm went above the normal shift rpms - then usually the transmission will shift from 2nd to 3rd.

    There has been a transmission recall by Honda for inspection. Could this be the same or a different problem?

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    We also have a Odyssey 02 with 43k on it and we have also had the same problem with second gear, sometimes while coming out of a turn, or taking off from a light, it's like when it goes to shift to second it just drops the gear, and revs the tach. Then like the rest just ease of the gas then re apply, and the gear is back. Maybe presure related. Just seems like a PSI problem.

    We had the warranty trans update done. Apparently they installed a jet pump or something like that, and re filled second gear. I didn't know each gear had it's own resivore, or maybe he was feeding me a load, but it still drops the gear every now and then.

    Also have had instances were i would be at freeway speed and the TCS light and chk engine light would simotainiosly come on together and the trans would downshift or lunge, and unless i stop and park it , turn the engine off, and restart, it would delay shifting in all gears untill about 3500 rpm.

    What is up with that? we don't have 5200 and if we have to pay, I would have serious doubts about letting the Dealer preform the work.

    Tim.

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    Lightbulb Honda Odyssey 02 Trans dead

    This forum has been extremely helpful in resolving my trans problem. A year ago, I noticed that while driving, the car had a hesitation going from 1st to 2nd gear. My revolutions would reach 4 but I would be under 30 miles per hour. I would accelerate the car without increasing the mileage, like if the car was in parking and me hitting the gas. It happened once in a blue moon, but then it started happening more often. I took the car to service many times, and they kept telling me that they couldn't reproduce the problem. The good thing is that by going to the dealership I had proof of the many check-ups they did. Also I proved loyalty to them.
    As soon as this hesitation became frequent, they told me that the solenoids (not sure if it's correctly written) needed to be changed. It was a $800 job approx. and I paid for it. This week, the engine light came on and the problem persisted, so the diagnose was a dead trans. The repair cost: $5000.

    I jump into the internet to find out if there were any publised problems with trans on the Honda Odyssey and to my surprised I found millions of cases, even articles from newspaper and TV that have come out regarding this problem. I printed everything and went to the dealership. When they saw me so prepared, without opening my mouth they told me that my trans would be fixed at no cost plus they would give me a rental car. I told all the customers in the service area the problem they would face with the Odyssey, and I gave them my phone number so I can tell them what I knew. Honda didn't what to have a customer like me on their back, I was truly ready to go to the local news if they didn't step up and fixed the problem. I encourage each one of you to do the same thing and have them be responsible for the mistakes. We bought the best van in the market and paid a goodwill for it, and we expect service. We are not driving a Caravan, so please fight for your rights.

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    I found out today that when the dealer does the recall and inspects the trans prior to updating, that they use a inspection window of some sorts and they take like 8 digital photos and send them via email to Honda. Honda then calls them and tels them to update, or replace the transmission if this Gear they are looking at has wear on it or not.

    Hopefully it won't be long before they extend the warrantys on the 02's

    Tim.

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    Angry My odyssey 02 trans died today - help!

    It has 54,000 miles on it. Over a period of just a few days, it went from occasional slipping or lagging when shifting to refusing to move forward (or in reverse) when starting from a stop. Today it stopped in traffic - thankfully, the traffic was light and it didn't cause an accident. Would those of you who have been successful in getting Honda to replace your transmission please share some specifics of what articles, etc. you presented to make your case?
    Thanks.

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    Smile Honda Odyssey 02 Transmission Problem

    Quote Originally Posted by Angie Bravo
    This forum has been extremely helpful in resolving my trans problem. A year ago, I noticed that while driving, the car had a hesitation going from 1st to 2nd gear. My revolutions would reach 4 but I would be under 30 miles per hour. I would accelerate the car without increasing the mileage, like if the car was in parking and me hitting the gas. It happened once in a blue moon, but then it started happening more often. I took the car to service many times, and they kept telling me that they couldn't reproduce the problem. The good thing is that by going to the dealership I had proof of the many check-ups they did. Also I proved loyalty to them.
    As soon as this hesitation became frequent, they told me that the solenoids (not sure if it's correctly written) needed to be changed. It was a $800 job approx. and I paid for it. This week, the engine light came on and the problem persisted, so the diagnose was a dead trans. The repair cost: $5000.

    I jump into the internet to find out if there were any publised problems with trans on the Honda Odyssey and to my surprised I found millions of cases, even articles from newspaper and TV that have come out regarding this problem. I printed everything and went to the dealership. When they saw me so prepared, without opening my mouth they told me that my trans would be fixed at no cost plus they would give me a rental car. I told all the customers in the service area the problem they would face with the Odyssey, and I gave them my phone number so I can tell them what I knew. Honda didn't what to have a customer like me on their back, I was truly ready to go to the local news if they didn't step up and fixed the problem. I encourage each one of you to do the same thing and have them be responsible for the mistakes. We bought the best van in the market and paid a goodwill for it, and we expect service. We are not driving a Caravan, so please fight for your rights.
    I am so glad that I found this forum before deciding to pay $4,500 for the replacement of my Honda Odyssey 02 Transmission with the similar problem - slipping between 2nd gear and 3rd gear. The dealer told me the diagnosis by the computer indicated that the solenoids needed to be replaced in order for them to test if my transmission is bad. I had to pay close to $500 for the replacement of the solenoids so I did pay for it. They then called me and said "Unfortunately, it still didn't work after the replacement of the solenoids, ...., the only way my van can be repaired is to get the transmision replaced and it will cost $4,500 to do that..."

    I was helpless until I found this site. I printed out the messages from this site and brought them to the dealer. They said my VIN was NOT covered by the extended warrantee from Honda and could not help. I explained that I had good maintenence records in Honda Services and it made no sense that I had to pay it myself for the bad transmission produced by Honda and the transmisiion problem of Honda Odyssey has widespreaded already. I also told them I currently own another Honda CR-V and it has never had any problem at all. I insisted to talk to their Director and he eventually promised to call American Honda on my behalf. Last night, I got good news - American Honda has agreed to cover all of the expense inclduing the material and labor with 36,000 miles/3 year warrantee. I was a little upset for paying $500 for the solenoids in the beginning, but it worths it becasue I think this $500 made them tried harder to convinced American Honda that I am a good customer...

    I was told to drop off my van on Sunday night and they will do the replacement for me once the new transmission arrives. I will update how it goes next week.

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    You're out of luck!

    I too have an 02 Odyssey, at least you got 40k out of your trans. I only got 18k. The rebuilt Honda trans lasted 9000 then it was replaced again. Another, 1000 miles, ooops, failed again, now 1500 miles later on the 3rd trans its starting again....It seems that once you have a problem look out because Honda does not fix the problem. I'm looking to get rid of my van with only 32000 miles but of course it's not worth that much in trade. Honda will do nothing to extend my warranty or buy the van back. This is a terrible product from a terrible company.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Clark
    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. Has 40k now. A lot of highway miles to visit kids. Asked during required trans oil chage about the transmission not shifting as smooth as before. Dealer said there is no problem. The trans started to slip between gears and let the motor rev up until you took your foot off the gas. The dealer now said that thte transmission needs to be replaced. They do not work on any parts of the transmission and only swap out the transmission with a rebuilt unit. They want $5200 to do this. I said this is unacceptable. Told to call Honda 800 number to see if Honda will pay. I was told they will have a rep call back. Three days latter a rep did call to get iformation on the problem. They want to talk to the dealer who changed the transmission oil. This was 2 days ago.

    This car was not driven in city traffic. I think the transmission can not take the 240HP. I also see that the extended the warranty of 2000 and 2001 odyssey transmissions.

    Does anyone else have this problem with their Odyssey?

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    2002 Odyssey transmission failure

    I notice that no one has added to this thread since August, but I'll try to see if anyone is still watching. I also have a 2002 Odyssey with a dead transmission. Honda has a recall out about the burned 2nd gear problem, but this is not that problem. The car has 111,000 miles, more than normal for its age, and I suspect that I'm having a problem that many other owners will see when they hit this mileage. Honda will probably want to contend that replacement of the transmission after 100,000 miles is not unreasonable, but I don't buy it. Anyone else agree with me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Clark
    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. Has 40k now. A lot of highway miles to visit kids. Asked during required trans oil chage about the transmission not shifting as smooth as before. Dealer said there is no problem. The trans started to slip between gears and let the motor rev up until you took your foot off the gas. The dealer now said that thte transmission needs to be replaced. They do not work on any parts of the transmission and only swap out the transmission with a rebuilt unit. They want $5200 to do this. I said this is unacceptable. Told to call Honda 800 number to see if Honda will pay. I was told they will have a rep call back. Three days latter a rep did call to get iformation on the problem. They want to talk to the dealer who changed the transmission oil. This was 2 days ago.

    This car was not driven in city traffic. I think the transmission can not take the 240HP. I also see that the extended the warranty of 2000 and 2001 odyssey transmissions.

    Does anyone else have this problem with their Odyssey?
    I too have a 02 odyssey that we purchased in Dec.01. My transmission has always felt rough and "clunky" and Honda has continually told me that this was normal. 3 weeks ago the car would occassionally not go into 2nd gear driving between 20-35 mph. I would have to take my foot off the pedal till the car slowed back down below 20mph and then slowly press the gas to get the 2nd gear to pick up ( this is quite scarry when your trying to accelerate onto interstate. ) I took the car into Honda with these issues and they could not re-enact this problem . Yesterday(21/2 weeks later) the check engine light finally came on with the TCS light. I stopped the car, then restarted it and the TCS light went off but the Check Engine stayed on. Today I took it into Honda and they told me that I now needed a new transmission at a cost of $5000!!! I currently have 52,000 miles on the van so I have no warrenty left. We bought the van after long research and customer satisfaction reviews. I have never heard of a Honda vehicle losing it's transmission at such a young age. Aren't Hondas supposed to go at least 200,000 miles or more?! Our previous van was a Toyota Previa which we sold at 189,000 miles and still going!! We still owe 2 years on the loan for our van and it sits undrivable at the Honda dealership.Anyone have any answers?

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    Angry Honda Odyssey 2nd Gear Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by hondamomma
    I too have a 02 odyssey that we purchased in Dec.01. My transmission has always felt rough and "clunky" and Honda has continually told me that this was normal. 3 weeks ago the car would occassionally not go into 2nd gear driving between 20-35 mph. I would have to take my foot off the pedal till the car slowed back down below 20mph and then slowly press the gas to get the 2nd gear to pick up ( this is quite scarry when your trying to accelerate onto interstate. ) I took the car into Honda with these issues and they could not re-enact this problem . Yesterday(21/2 weeks later) the check engine light finally came on with the TCS light. I stopped the car, then restarted it and the TCS light went off but the Check Engine stayed on. Today I took it into Honda and they told me that I now needed a new transmission at a cost of $5000!!! I currently have 52,000 miles on the van so I have no warrenty left. We bought the van after long research and customer satisfaction reviews. I have never heard of a Honda vehicle losing it's transmission at such a young age. Aren't Hondas supposed to go at least 200,000 miles or more?! Our previous van was a Toyota Previa which we sold at 189,000 miles and still going!! We still owe 2 years on the loan for our van and it sits undrivable at the Honda dealership.Anyone have any answers?
    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. We got the recall notice in August 04, and took it in for servicing that month at a Manassas, Virginia Honda dealership. The dealer at the time said that there was nothing wrong with my automatic transmission, and they did not have to replace it, but instead did a stop-gap measure that provided the lubrication to the gears. It's four months later, I am now on Thanksgiving vacation 800 miles away from home. The Odyssey started having problems getting out of 2nd gear about halfway through our trip from Virginia to Indiana. The rpm would rev up, and the car would not easily shift into 3rd. About 120 miles from our destination, the TCS and the malfunction indicator light came on. Same thing as the above post. I took in the Odyssey to the local Honda dealership in Indiana. They said something about a "colossal coincidence" about my problems with 2nd gear and that it was probably not related to the recall. Anybody buying that? They also mentioned a possible computer "glitch" and something about gear ratios!

    My wife is 8 months pregnant, and I have a 4 year old and a 2 1/2 year old. I cannot believe that Honda is going leave a US Army soldier and his family stranded in Indiana, stick them with a $5200.00 bill for a new transmission, and then go to sleep comfortably at night.

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    im no expert and have no idea what exactly is causing these malfunctions.. having said that.. more often then not.. trany failure is due to excess heat... an easy way to combat this is a tranny cooler.. if you havent done so alreay.. its a good idea.. at worst.. it will delay the innevitable.. at best.. it will solve the cause of the problems.. worth a try IMHO
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    There definately is a problem here - evidence is overwhelming

    All of the above posts about slipping trannys on the '02 Odyssey are all *right on*. We have experienced the same problems with 2nd gear (after the recall work was done) at 84,000 miles. The dealer has told me *EXACTLY* the same thing. They cannot reproduce it, that the computer says that the error is an "incorrect gear ratio" - which they suspect is an incorrect error. Trust me, I will fight Honda on this one, and like the previous post, they will hate to have a customer like me. I certainly will NOT pay $5000 for a new tranny. In fact, I will not pay anything for a new tranny when the problem is clearly a systemic problem with these Odys.

    Thanks...

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    Honda Odyssey 02 Transmission slip

    Wife and I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey van purchased in November 2001. Van has 30,800 miles on it. It's now Jan 2005 and we are 2 months out of warranty. Starting in late December 2004, my wife started telling me of problems where the engine would rev between 2nd and 3rd gear. She would have to let her foot off of the gas for a few seconds, then reapply and the van would start going again. Did alot of research on the Internet (including this forum) and found that many people are complaining about transmission slipping. Should also note that the transmission recall work was performed in summer of 2004 (Jet oil kit was installed).

    Took the van to the dealership and reported the problem with the transmission slipping between 2nd and 3rd gear. We were also armed with various print-outs of the posts we found on the Internet. Dealer was very nice and gave us a loaner van even though our van was no longer under warranty. After a few weeks, dealer called us and said that they had duplicated the problem, called Honda, and Honda will replace the transmission free of charge. I asked the service manager for an explanation and he told me that they suspect a problem with the 3rd gear clutch pack. Honda does not fix transmissions, they only replace. They also put in a new PCM computer module that somehow controls the engine and transmission. Service manager was vague about what this new computer module fixed, he said something about it controlling shifting. I asked if this new transmission could potentially have the same problem and the dealer said the only difference between the new transmission and the old one is the fact that it already has the fix for the recall that was issued in summer of 04. So, I can only assume that the 3rd gear clutch pack could potentially be problem again sometime in the future. Dealer says that this is the first transmission they have replaced due to slipping.

    Hope this helps anyone else having the same problem. If you do have the same problem, do your research, print out these posts, and hopefully Honda will take care of it.

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    Honda Odyssey 02 Transmission slip

    mbbm, thank you for your post.
    I'm in exactly the same boat as you were and hoping that Honda takes care of the problem like they did yours! May hit you for more info on how you got Honda to agree to fix it for free.
    2002 Honda Ody bought in Nov 2001, had the transmission recall minimum work done (Jet oil kit installed) in Sep 2004, now at 80K miles, the real problem has surfaced....the engine will just rev between 1st and 2nd OR 2nd and 3rd gear (not sure) at a particular location in town every day!!?? I then put the hazard lights on...bring it to a halt and then start again. I then drive 55 miles without a problem..??? (been happening for a week now!)

    Got an appointment at the dealer tomorrow...on the phone the bum says the the recall had nothing to do with the 2nd gear slipping...it had to do with not enough lubrication and freezing fears. It may be true but I can't imagine this is not related, specially with all I've been reading about peoples experiences with the problem.

    If anyone else was able to get Honda to fix this for them, please write.
    I also undertand that Honda has some kind of an extention on the transmission warranty...(7 year??)

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    arent jap cars 10 ft tall and bullet proof??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Clark
    I have a 2002 Honda Odyssey that I bought in Nov 2001. Has 40k now. A lot of highway miles to visit kids. Asked during required trans oil chage about the transmission not shifting as smooth as before. Dealer said there is no problem. The trans started to slip between gears and let the motor rev up until you took your foot off the gas. The dealer now said that thte transmission needs to be replaced. They do not work on any parts of the transmission and only swap out the transmission with a rebuilt unit. They want $5200 to do this. I said this is unacceptable. Told to call Honda 800 number to see if Honda will pay. I was told they will have a rep call back. Three days latter a rep did call to get iformation on the problem. They want to talk to the dealer who changed the transmission oil. This was 2 days ago.

    This car was not driven in city traffic. I think the transmission can not take the 240HP. I also see that the extended the warranty of 2000 and 2001 odyssey transmissions.

    Does anyone else have this problem with their Odyssey?
    heck from all ive read about japanese cars they are perfect.. 10 feet tall and bullet proof.. if that was a GM or Ford problem the nightly news would be blaring it on every network.. look how they tried to put the Ford Explorer out of business .. seems the quality youve been lead to believe came from writers with an agenda against american car companies.. my old Buick .. 1990 century.. bought new.. have 233,000 miles .. no oil burning.. no tranny problems.. never spent a cent except tires and battery.. a.c. even still works.. not too bad for an "inferior" AMERICAN car.. eh???

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    Another one joins the frey

    I ran across this forum after searching online for Honda Odyssey Transmission Parts. Wonder why I was searching for this? Well our 2002 Odyssey's transmission will no longer go into 3rd gear. It is comforting to know that we am not the only one with this problem. Coincidentally, Honda a few weeks back sent us a recall notice for the transmission and it was scheduled to go into the shop this past Monday for it. I will be sending this forum stream to my wife so that when she starts talking with Honda about the problem we will be a little ahead of the game.

    Thanks for all the information

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