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Update... we replaced the rear bearing, humming still there. i guess its the rearend itself weather its the ring and pinion or bearings within the rearend, whatever the case i am not spending a couple thousand more replacing it. Ford should have a recal done.
Ken
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2002 Ford Explorer XLT/4 DOOR V6 problems
I too have a problem with my 2002 Ford Explorer .. my wife and I bought the SUV last June/2005 and it will be almost a year this June, unfortunately problems are starting to sprout out; i bought extra Protection plan that they offered me but at first well since this is almost brand new and it had only 57,000 miles but your instinks kick in just added protection and soon enought it pays off even though i paid $1000 extra for the extra protection of the whole SUV. it was a good decision;just to make my story short first the transmission problem and it all started just a slipping and shifting problem and so i brought in to the dealer for check up. After 3 days they said then need to rebuild the transmission due to malfunctioning of some part inside the trans..the total bill for that was $3000 and good thing i bought that protection plan.
Now the brake lights are not lighting if your braking only the brake light from the top function properly... but the 2 lights on both sides on the bottom are not working .. Unfortunately i cant find which fuse #number should i look if the fuse are in need of changing .. [B]I read the manual and i was very dissapointed because they didnt mention what #number is the fuse for the brake light SO IF YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER ON THE FUSE BOX KINDLY REPLY. THANKS.. also again my transmission is having a problem again and it got only almost 3 months since they rebuild my transmission but the good thing was the repair shop who service my explorer gave a warranty if just in case there is a problem after they repaired my trans. I've notice that im hearing a squicking sound inside the engine and i thought it a water pump cuz my old car had that problem and sure enought i was right. other problems are turning signals flashing too fast...the steering wheel is sluggished or kinda hard to turn , sipping trans fluid,
If all this problems are taken care off me and my wife decided to trade this explorer for a JAPANESE VAN .. im not here to discourage people who owns ford but japanese cars are less mechanically breakdown, i will trade-in the same place were we bought the SUV and traded with japanese Van maybe Quest.. I hope everybody learned there lesson not to buy FORD as i was too .
thanks
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02 Ford Explorer Brake light are Out and where is the dip stick for Tranmission. HELP
I need help if someone can tell me where can i find the fuse of 02 Ford Explorer brake light? i guess what #number.. i would like to check if the fuse are busted . i did read the owners manual and i cant find where can i located the fuse for the brake...the 2 brake lights are not working but the brake light on the top are working.Also i cant find the dip stick for tansmission to add more Trans fluid .. thanks
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Flashing Overdrive Light!
Here is another horror story about the now infamous flashing overdrive light on a 2002 Ford Explorer.
My story:
Driving home, O/D light starts flashing on highway, google this finding when I get home, came across this forum, panic, go to Ford dealership, confirm issue with my torque converter, now I am down $2500. the dealership offered no help. Today I will begin my calls to numbers/contacts I have come across on this forum. DONT BUY A 2002 FORD EXPLORER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
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Did you have any luck with Ford paying for the repair. I have the same problem and I am going to call karen jones. I just wanted to know what their response to you was. Thanks
[QUOTE=wdarne]
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Originally Posted by BP123
Thanks for the info. Just wondering if it is a worn ring and pinion would there be metal flakes in the fluid. The dealer told me that they checked it but didn't see any metal flakes so they ruled that out.
Thanks.
I posted comment on this but thought I would try to reply direct. I had similar problem with my 02 Eddie Bauer 4x4. After new tires, alignment, etc. I took it to different dealership. The tech there told me that Ford had been experiencing problems with the rear end on some of their 02s. It ended up being a design problem when they went to the new body style in 02. They replaced my entire rear end and mount in Jun 04 at no cost to me. They said not all the 02's experienced this problem but enough that changed some things on the 03 model. Here is a point of contact if your dealership does nothing:
313-845-5903 Karen Jones, Ford Executive Offices
It took me a while to find this person but she works up in the headquarters.
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another one bites the dust
Same issue.. same scenerio... o/d lite starts flashing ( right after I have had the tranny serviced! ) .. by the time i get it home, take it to dealer, its $3500... :mad:
Send in your complaints to the consumer complaint division!
www.nhtsa.dot.gov
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STILL hating my Explorer
I've had all the same problems I read about on this forum. Perhaps a few extra...I am just over 50k miles and have had 5 tranny rebuilds and a refurbished (Ford calls new, HA!!!) BAUM installed. A multitude of front rears, and rear rears (which is currently spewing all over driveway), thermostats, blower motors, vacuum lines, etc. Most recently the heap redlines trying to accelerate onto the highway. Then the infamous OD light starts flashing and twice it's stalled out. I fear that soon I will have to add bodily harm to my lemon lawsuit...seems it's only a matter of time before she quits when someone else is driving too close/fast behind me. In addition the ac condenser blew...fun when it's hitting 90's day after day in NJ. In the shop for 3days, home for 3 and the ac is blowing hot out of drivers side. Aaaarrrghh!!!! Mind you, Ford regional mgr extended my warranty at his expense (and he's none too happy with that...imagine the income he'd have off of me if he hadn't) so I haven't had to put out cash, just live with lots of aggravation. Still it burns me up writing out that check on the loan when the truck is in the shop every 6-8 wks. I also seem to be having problems with the 4wheel low light flashing. Anyone else have this? When I bring it in to the dealer now they claim nothing registers on the diagnostics. I don't believe a word they say...for 3+ yrs everytime something blinked they could call a code. Since they found I hired an attorney miraculously there are never any codes. Weird eh!? Anyway, since I live in NJ (the state of frivolous lawsuits) it takes a while to see a lemon law case through the system. It's been over a year but hopefully Ford will come up with a reasonable settlement (their first offer was about $8k LESS than what I owe) or I'll have my day in court!! After being a die hard Ford customer for over 20yrs I will NEVER EVER PURCHASE A FORD AGAIN! And I would counsel anyone considering to think twice. They aren't worth the price Ford asks and Ford Motor Corp does NOT stand behind their product.
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Slipping 3rd
Quote:
Originally Posted by burnz44
Ford has a Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) to all its dealers about this KNOWN issue:
03-25-4 DEC 03 A/T - 5R55W No 3rd Gear/Slipping 2-3 Shift/DTC's Set
I just noticed my 2002 Ford Explorer started slipping(I think!) today. It seems that it slow shifting between 1-2 or 2-3, I'm not sure. Where can I get a copy of the TSB?
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TSB site
Quote:
Originally Posted by bfahey
I just noticed my 2002 Ford Explorer started slipping(I think!) today. It seems that it slow shifting between 1-2 or 2-3, I'm not sure. Where can I get a copy of the TSB?
Check out this link for TSB's on Fords
http://www.ford-trucks.com/tsb/tsb.php/m-FORD/y-2002
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rear end problems and more on my hated Ford
I have a 2003 Ford Explorer with 55,000 miles. It will be 3 years young the end of October. I have had a whole host of problems. Anti-lock brake light on, door ajar light on (problem with electrical panel in door), this is a good one... When you open your back truck door, you can open only the window portion..One day I went to shut the window and the entire window came off the hinge on one side and the whole thing was hanging. Now I have been hearing a noise in the back towards the passenger side rear. It goes away when I release from the accelerator. Brought it to my local shop for an oil change and had him test drive he said I need a whole new rear. The gears are shedding and I have metal shavings in the differential fluids. My oil is almost the color of metalic. Called up the dealership and they claim they called Ford Motor and they don't know of any problems of this sort. Hard to believe they do not know about this. I will never ever buy a Ford again.:mad:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jdiamond
I have a 2003 Ford Explorer with 55,000 miles. It will be 3 years young the end of October. I have had a whole host of problems. Anti-lock brake light on, door ajar light on (problem with electrical panel in door), this is a good one... When you open your back truck door, you can open only the window portion..One day I went to shut the window and the entire window came off the hinge on one side and the whole thing was hanging. Now I have been hearing a noise in the back towards the passenger side rear. It goes away when I release from the accelerator. Brought it to my local shop for an oil change and had him test drive he said I need a whole new rear. The gears are shedding and I have metal shavings in the differential fluids. My oil is almost the color of metalic. Called up the dealership and they claim they called Ford Motor and they don't know of any problems of this sort. Hard to believe they do not know about this. I will never ever buy a Ford again.:mad:
Outcome: since I posted the above message I did bring it to the dealer and the SUV needs a whole new rear end. Dealers get paid on bonus mostly from survey's taken by the customer. We told the dealer all we need to do is call Ford themselves, it was amazing how they came back and they are paying for 50% of the service. Total bill will be around 2000, but them picking up $1,000 is better than nothing. A car with 55, 000 should not be crapping out like this. My advice, never buy a Ford, or if you must, buy the extended warranty.
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I am upset!
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Originally Posted by Sverk
I too just had the same thing happen to me. My explorer overdrive light kept blinking on and off and now my transmission is cooked. I just took it in for it's 60,000 mile service and they supposedly changed the transmission fluid this past March at 61,774 miles and now I have 68,093 miles on it. What's going on???? It had fluid but it was black. I think the transmission have problems and should be recalled.
Myra :mad:
I have a 2002 Ford Explorer with 36, 500 miles on it. The O/D light started flashing and I thought it was just a fluke or computer issue because NO WAY could a car with such low mileage have transmission problems.
Anyway, I found this forum and of course became very concerned. I called Smith Cairnes Ford in Yonkers, N.Y. who told me that it would cost me between $1,700.00 and $2,300.00 to fix and that they heard of the problem. They were very unconcerned and aloof to the fact that I was upset over the fact that the car only has 36,500 miles and is having these troubles. They told me that transmission bands were busted, servo broken, etc etc.
The salessnake at the front "service" desk told me that it happened because I did not change the transmission fluid at 30,000. What a joke! Anyway, I took the car from them because they are useless and I would NEVER go to them again for anything.
I took the car to a local transmission guy who hooked up a computer to the system and he confirmed that something is wrong with the transmission, but maybe just a cellenoid pack hopefully. That will cost about $450.00.
I am waiting to see if that fixes it. Word to the wise, forget about FORD Dealerships. They are the worst to deal with period!
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'02 Explorer shift problems
I just bought an '02 Explorer about a month ago. Just today, I was in park and shifted to reverse and it just seemed to shift hard, with a loud thunk. Then, it did it again when I went to reverse to drive. Seems to shift fine when driving though. Husband went to check the tranny fluid but can't find a dipstick for the reservoir. Any suggestions? After reading this forum I'm pretty worried about what I can expect. It has 72k miles on it and am not sure when was serviced last for tranny fluid flush and such. Bought from a ford dealership so just assumed all suggested maintenance items had been taken care of. Thanks for any help you may have!
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Sounds like you got a lemon like the rest of the us! Unfortunately the problems have nothing to do with maintenance. It's a manufacturing/design flaw that Ford refuses to acknowledge. I've got less than 60k on my heap and 5+ transmissions. I hope you have better luck than me!
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2002 Ford Explorer
I have a problem with my 2002 Ford Explorer. I went to back up and the car would not move. The engine revved but car would not move, then there was a loud snap from the rear of the car and it moved but it was very jerky. Then I went forward and it drove terrible. I have not taken it to the dealership yet as the long weekend and the service department is not open. Any suggestions to what the problem may be?
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Hi,
I have an exploer problem as well could you please tell me how to post my message on the post board so I can appear in the forum. Many Thanks, Martin,:) Keamcottage
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Explorer PROBLEMS!
Ok, I gotta vent! A week ago my 2002 Explorer with 85,000 miles started the Overdrive flashing light dance. Turns out my transmission needs to be rebuilt, we are talking around $3000. A few months ago, my rear axle seal started leaking, that was $500 bucks. Then they my mechanic who is very astute noticed the humming from my rear. He replaced my right rear wheel bearing which fixed the noise, at a cost of $500. So this year so far, total $4000 for a car that is not abused or off roaded. I can count on one hand the amount Ive even turned on the 4 wheel drive! Man am I mad at Ford!
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Same deal...78,000 miles...O/D light flashing....some herky jerky stuff from tranny and.....POOF...about $2800.00 for Aamco to do the total rebuild.
Should I expect the same thing to happen after the rebuild?
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Unbelievable
My 02 Explorer is now at Aamco getting a new tranny. Same problem with the O/D light, this is ridiculous. All these problems and Ford is doing nothing? There has to be something, we as consumers can do. Look how much we paid for these vehicles. I'm seriously considering a class action lawsuit. We shouldn't have to pay for their screw ups. It's just bad business all the way around.
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4x4
I have a 2002 explorer with 85k miles. We have gotten our first winter storm of the season here in the kansas city area, and I have discovered a problem. I can't get 4x4 to work. i have checked all the fuses that have anything to do with the 4x4 and it doesn't look like any of them are blown. This is not the first problem I have had with this truck, I am not a satisfied ford customer!! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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'02 Explorer woes
Geez, I wish I'd read all this 6 months ago. My '02 Explorer's O/D and engine light started flashing on and off around 60,000 miles. Since I'd just paid an arm and leg for the 60,000 service, and since lights kept going off, I didn't worry. Now my car has been at the dealer for 4 days and they've only now figured out the transmission needs to be replaced. They seem to be giving me a big discount compared to what it could cost, but if this is as big a problem as it seems from reading these posts, we shouldn't have to pay a dime. I'm going to dump this lemon as quickly as I can!:mad:
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Problems w/electric windows Ford Explorer 02 eddie bauer?
The power windows have quit working on my vehicle. Can anyone tell me which fuse exactly is what runs the electric windows and where it's located? I know the fuse box is under the panel but would like ot know if anyone has any personal experience with this type of problem or can point out a good web site with information.
The manual had almost NOTHING in it about the electrical window system.
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just had the master power window switch go bad on my 02 explorer. all windows and door locks worked except driver side window went down and would not go back up. needed to replace the switch which is located in the drivers side door panel just below control panel. part was $106.00 plus tax. easy fix. the $106.00 wasn't so easy.
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I bought a 2003 Explorer LTD V6 Centennial with 62K miles on it, added the extra protection BaseCARE warranty (glad that I did after reading this and other forums) that will cover me until 9/2009 or 98K miles, and have been having (I think) the rear differential whine since shortly after I bought the vehicle. It only appears between 50mph and 62mph, and sounds like a humming from the rear. It's not terribly loud (drowned out my my stereo or climate control fans most of the time), and sounds like usual truck noise to me. I have also noticed some random cold weather noises (only since temp has dropped below 45 degrees):
1. Clicking/clattering from my center console when the climate control is set to automatic and temp > 72 degrees, or when the climate control is adjusted to above this temperature from a lower setting. Been told my both another forum reader and the service front desk man at my local dealership that it sounds like the control blend doors.
2. High-pitched whine from the front of the vehicle shortly after starting in < 30 degree weather. It is intermittent, and only last a very short time (usually less than 2 seconds) before disappearing. May happen once, or may happen several times over the course of the drive.
I have to say that the truck was in pristine condition when I bought it... the dealer (Mike Ognibene Ford in Batavia, NY) replaced the brakes, rotors, alloys, and tires, in addition to fixing some hood rust, prior to me picking it up all free of charge. I just had the 65K oil change and lubrication performed at my local dealership (not the same one that I bought it from). I haven't noticed any leakage from my undercarriage, or any transmission slipping, etc. It's been snowing, and as far as I can tell, my 4x4 system is functioning fine.
I am aware of the TSB out there about this problem, and will probably address it in a few months when I have a more relaxed schedule and can take some time with the car at the dealership. I hope my warranty will cover any rear differential or tranny problems that may need to be fixed/replaced, because I cannot afford a $3-4K bill at this point.
Just wanted to join the conversation... thanks... and as always, any opinions or suggestions are always appreciated.
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Many people have also referred to this TSB (technical service bulletin) 05-23-3 from Ford regarding the rear differential noise (see below). My question is this... I have a Ford extended protection plan warranty until 9/09 or 98K miles. The warranty info below states eligibility under the new car limited warranty. Does this mean that I'll have to eat the full cost of repair, even with the d*** extended warranty?
FORD: 1997-2005 Expedition, F-150
2002-2005 Explorer
LINCOLN: 1998-2005 Navigator
2003-2005 Aviator
MERCURY: 2002-2005 Mountaineer
This article supersedes TSB 05-12-6 to update the Service Kit and Service Procedure information.
ISSUE:
Some vehicles may exhibit an axle whine or hum during acceleration, deceleration and/or cruise.
ACTION:
An axle repair kit has been developed which incorporates most parts required for a comprehensive axle repair. The kit should be used instead of installing a complete axle assembly to repair an axle whine/hum. Replace Ring and Pinion with Axle Kit and Components.
NOTE: REFER TO THE "DIFFERENTIAL RING AND PINION" IN-VEHICLE REPAIR PROCEDURE IN THE ONLINE WORKSHOP MANUAL SECTION 205-00, FOR THE LATEST AXLE DIAGNOSIS AND REPAIR PROCEDURES.
NOTE: FOR 1999 AND PRIOR MODEL YEAR VEHICLES, USE THE 2000 MODEL YEAR WORKSHOP MANUAL.
NOTE: WHEN SERVICING THE REAR AXLE ON ANY 2002-2004 F-150, EXPEDITION, NAVIGATOR, EXPLORER OR MOUNTAINEER BUILT BEFORE 3/30/2004, IF FLUID REPLACEMENT IS REQUIRED, REPLACE THE ORIGINAL FUEL EFFICIENT HIGH PERFORMANCE (FEHP) SAE 75W-90 REAR AXLE LUBRICANT WITH SAE 75W-140 HIGH PERFORMANCE SYNTHETIC REAR AXLE LUBRICANT. WHEN THE FLUID TYPE IS CHANGED, REPLACE THE CURRENT "FEHP" METAL TAG WITH A NEW "75W-140" TAG (F3TZ-4121-AA). IN ADDITION, REMOVE OR BLOCK-OUT THE FEHP REFERENCE ON THE MULTI-COLORED LABEL LOCATED ON THE RIGHT SIDE AXLE TUBE. IF THE AXLE IS A LIMITED-SLIP MODEL, USE XL3 ADDITIVE FRICTION MODIFIER IN THE QUANTITY RECOMMENDED BY THE WORKSHOP MANUAL.
KIT ORDERING: REFER TO THE VEHICLE AXLE TAG FOR AXLE RATIO IDENTIFICATION
5L3Z-4209-A = (8.8-Inch Ring Gear/3.31 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150)
5L3Z-4209-B = (8.8-Inch Ring Gear/3.55 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150, 2002-2005 Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator)
5L3Z-4209-C = (8.8-Inch Ring Gear/3.73 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150, 2002-2005 Explorer/Mountaineer/Aviator, 2003-2004 Expedition/Navigator)
5L3Z-4209-D = (9.75-Inch Ring Gear/3.31 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150, 2005 Expedition/Navigator, 1997-2002 Expedition/Navigator)
5L3Z-4209-E = (9.75-Inch Ring Gear/3.55 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150, 1997-2002 Expedition/Navigator)
5L3Z-4209-F = (9.75-Inch Ring Gear/3.73 ratio) (1997-2005 F-150, 1997-2005 Expedition/Navigator)
NOTE: 9.75 REAR AXLE HOUSINGS WERE REDESIGNED IN MID-1999, INCREASING FRONT PINION BEARING SIZE. REPLACING RING & PINIONS IN AN OLD-STYLE AXLE ASSEMBLY WILL REQUIRE INSTALLATION OF SPACER P/N YL3Z-4662-CA. SPACER IS TO BE INSTALLED BETWEEN INNER PINION BEARING AND COLLAPSIBLE SPACER.
THE AXLE SERVICE KITS INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS:
4630 - Head Bearing
4628 - Head Bearing Cup
4676 - Pinion Seal
386989-S2 - Washer (Slinger)
4621 - Tail Bearing
4616 - Tail Bearing Cup
4222 - Differential Bearing Cups
4221 - Differential Bearings
4209 - Gear Set (includes pinion shims, pinion nut and crush spacer)
4209 - Instruction Sheet
NOTE: THE KIT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. SOME OR ALL OF THESE ITEMS WILL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE AXLE SERVICE, DEPENDING ON AXLE APPLICATION/STYLE.
ORDER AS NEEDED:
NOTE: REUSE OF RING GEAR BOLTS, CARRIER BEARING CAP BOLTS AND DIFFERENTIAL SLAVE PIN RETAINING BOLT REQUIRES CLEANING OF THREADS AND INSTALLATION OF TA-27 STUD AND BEARING MOUNT RETAINING COMPOUND & SEALANT.
YL3Z-4662-CA - Pinion Bearing Spacer for 1997-1998 9.75 axles
XG-14 - Gear Marking Compound
4067 - Differential Shims 0.241" to 0.307"
SAE XY-75W140-QL - High Performance Synthetic Rear Axle Lubricant
XL-3 - Additive Friction Modifier (Limited Slip Axles Only)
205-506 - Seal Protectors (Rotunda Tool)
W710084-S439 - Wheel End Nuts
390266-S100 - Differential Slave Pin Bolt (9.75" axles)
387426-S100 - Differential Slave Pin Bolt (8.8" axles)
4B422 - Axle Circlips
ZC-21 - Metal Surface Cleaner
TA-29 - Ultra Silicone Sealant
TA-27 - Stud and Bearing Mount Retaining Compound and Sealer
F3TZ-4121-AA - Fluid Tag (REQUIRED IF FLUID TYPE IS CHANGED FROM FEHP DURING REPAIR)
WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
052303A 1997-2002 Expedition, 1998-2002 Navigator, 1997-2004 F-150 Heritage, 2004-2005 F-150: Rear Axle Noise Repair (Includes Time For Road Test To Verify Concern (Beam Axle)) (Do Not Use With 4205A Or 4205A4) 4.7 Hrs.
052303A 2003-2005 Expedition: Rear Axle Noise Repair (Includes Time For Road Test To Verify Concern (Irs Axle)) (Do Not Use With 4010D Or 4010D4) 5.8 Hrs.
052303A 2003-2005 Expedition/Navigator With Air Suspension: Rear Axle Noise Repair (Includes Time For Road Test To Verify Concern (Irs Axle)) (Do Not Use With 4010D Or 4010D4) 5.9 Hrs.
052303A 2002-2005 Explorer/Mountaineer, 2003-2005 Aviator: Rear Axle Noise Repair (Includes Time For Road Test To Verify Concern (Irs Axle)) (Do Not Use With 4010D Or 4010D4) 6.6 Hrs.
DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
4209 14
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Rear End Noise
I've had the rear end noise problem with my 2002 Explorer V-6 XLT - went through the dealer and had rear end, driveshaft, and transmission housing replaced all under warranty. The rear end noise never completely went away. Soon after the warranty expired the noise got very loud. The dealer said no warranty because of the time & mileage - about a year and 12,000 miles. I took the Explorer to a local junk yard repair shop. They replaced the rear wheel bearings which were dry. Since the replacement I have put on over 30,000 miles and no noise. Now my airconditioner quit. It has been leaking ever since the 1st year I had the vehicle. I had it recharged and leak tested with no leaks showing for 3 seasons. Then this year a leak showed at the rear axle junction where the A/C tube comes from the front and connects with the rear air. I have had 3 dealers tell me this is a common problem because Ford used steel to steel connections where the items are exposed to the weather. The tube was rusted and leaking. I called Ford with no satisfaction. I had been to a Ford dealer getting prices on a new Freestar, but with Fords reply on the A/C after all the other problems I had with the Explorer, I bought 2 Chrysler Vans, and I love them and I'm not having any problems with them. No wonder Ford is going broke.
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2003 Explorer Issues
After reading many of these posts/replies, it seems that our 2003 XLT also falls under some of the problems. I have never been to the dealer only for the rear liftgate strut rods recall and a faulty crank trigger when it was brand new.
We bought our 2003 Explorer, V6, XLT new in 2003 and it now has 30k miles. Out of warranty since the 3 years are up as of 7/06.
1. Differential whine. Yes, it is there and I noticed it rather early on. It's not very loud and if I let off the gas, it goes away. I'll keep my eye on it.
2. Strange high pitch from transmission when it's cold out. This comes and goes but the truck shifts nicely even when the sound is present. Trans has had some erratic shifts once in a great while.
3. In the past few months, my wife complained about the passenger side blowing cold air inside the glove box. Yes, I looked into it this past weekend and it appears the blend door is sitting on top of the cabin air filter. Wonderful. This morning it is 5 degrees F so I shoved a piece of foam up there to stop the air from blowing through.
I've called called 4 dealerships yesterday at randaom and all three of these itmes are "oh yes, we can fix all of those, and they are all quite comon". So it seems that Ford is once again covering up many things that should be recalled.
Just an FYI for the Japanese van lovers, Honda had a serious issue with transmissions LOCKING UP on 1999-2002 Odysses and Pilots. They did not send a recall but asked that owners birng your vehicle to the dealer ASAP.
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hello
i have a 2002 ford explorer and it just started making a clunking sound from the rear end it does it when going in reverse and when in drive when i start moving or slowing down. could some one please tell me what could be causing this and how to fix it
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Loud whining and thumping
My wife and I bought our 2002 4x4 eddie bauer new. We had it in for warranty work on the rearend once, they replaced the clutch pack. Couple other minor things like the seat track and fuel mileage(they re-programmed it). There really have only been a few probs with this car. The rear blend doors click, the rear glass lift gate is out of adjustment(need to do the recall) and there has been a low speed vibration when turning. We also have the rear whine, but pretty much got used to it. There are 94k miles on the car now.
Last week, my wife sliced the right rear tire on something, so we took it in to get a whole new set of tires since the set on it had about 45k miles on them. Got the tires, everything looks good. Get out on the highway and I hear this loud noise like a helicopter is flying overhead and a subtle thump noise. Slow down and the slower the car goes, the louder the thumping noise is. Come to a stop and start back out, don't hear anything, about 45-50mph get the loud whining noise again. It sounds like the car is in 4x4 high, the steering is a little weird feeling when it does this. I once read a while back that tire circumference can wreak havoc on these vehicles since the auto 4x4 sensors are so touchy.
I have a good friend who is a Ford Sr. Master Mechanic. I've sent him an e-mail asking about his problem. He thought the low speed shudder while turning might have been the 4x4 auto sensors, but we never looked into it. He said that we might have a hub bearing going out, which is causing the thumping noise now.
We only have 5 more payments on this thing. We probably should have leased it instead of buy. If anyone has anymore additional information about the problem I described, please post!
Thanks
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Same noise
I had a similar noise and ignored it. Eventually, it got so bad that it felt like the rear end was sliding out from underneath me. I took it to the dealer (fortunately I had the Ford ESP) and it turned out that the axle bearings had essentially disintegrated and the axle nearly fell out. In fact the mechanic said that when he put the truck on the lift the axle nearly fell out of the differential.
So that was fine until a year later almost to the day the same thing happened on the other side. I took it back in and lo and behold it was the bearing on the other side.
So don't let it go too long without dealing with it.
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Ditto...
my 92,??? mile 2002 Explorer is also making noise. I took it to a tech and he diagnosed it was the timing chain. My extended warranty also just ran out; due to my high mileage. Have you heard anything else re: the chain lasting and just making noise? Did you take your car in and repair it?
My tech told me it's like a lawn mower chain. [Just so happen his shop was right next to a lawn mower repair shop.] When the chain is loose and it doesn't hit the clip at the right time, it'll make the noise. He said if it misses it completely and I notice the sterring gets tight, to pull on the side and stop the car. He mentioned it'll costs about $2k and he doesn't do the timing chain because it's a pain. I relunctantly called my ford service co and they confirmed my warranty has expried, if it was my timing chain it'll costs about $1k+ (labor) and $500+ (parts).
Now I'm sitting here with my next car pymt coming up in a couple of days, a car that makes noise (and unsure if it'll break anytime soon), and contemplating to trade-it in and get another vehicle with a not so good credit. Yikes!
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Originally Posted by dawnl
my 92,??? mile 2002 Explorer is also making noise. I took it to a tech and he diagnosed it was the timing chain. My extended warranty also just ran out; due to my high mileage. Have you heard anything else re: the chain lasting and just making noise? Did you take your car in and repair it?
dawnl, my 96,000 mile 99 Ford Explorer (4.0 SOHC) had the same issue for a while (at least a year). It had a rough idle when cold and wasn't running very well. I had it serviced several times during that time and unfortunately they never caught it. A few weeks ago I went out to my truck to start it. It made a pretty awful sound, died, and would not start again. A nearby Ford dealership told me it was a "complete engine failure" and quoted me $4700, before tax, for the replacement. I ended up having another mechanic (who confirmed that my valves were damaged) replace the engine with a low-mileage junkyard engine for around 2 grand.
If it's the same problem as mine, your mechanic is exactly right. This is a very common problem with some Ford engines. They actually extended the warranty on the repair to 72,000 miles for some 98-02 engines. As I understand it, they used a piece of plastic to keep the timing chain taut (Cam Tensioner). This piece fails, bits of plastic drop into the oil pan, the timing belt slips a little causing various engine problems, and eventually, when the chain gets loose enough it slips a tooth and the engine will eat itself. So if you are having this problem, you need to do something. Either fix it, start saving for a new engine, or dump the truck ASAP.
My new engine is running great, but unfortunately, a week after getting it back, the OD light flashed three times this morning when I shifted into drive. I'm going to pull the transmission pan off this weekend and see what I can see. :mad2:
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Get Out While You Can
I Just Recently Had Problems With My 2002 Ford Explorer Xls. It Was The Timing Chain Just Like Bpopp Is Saying The Rear Passenger Side Chain. I Pulled The Engine And Went Ahead A Replaced All 4 Chains That The Truck Has And The Oil Pump As Well Because Of All The Plastic It Had In The Oil Pan. I Got All Of That Fixed And Drove It For About A Week And The Truck Made A Awful Noise, Died And Wouldnt Start Back. The Truck Acted Like It Was Flooded Out. I Took The Valve Covers Back Off And Looked And The Rocker Arms Looked To Be Really Loose. So Loose That I Took One Out Without The Special Tool You Have To Have. I Then Noticed That That Thing Has Valve Lash Tentioners That Make The Rocker Arms And Valves Not Move. I Took Them Out And Pulled The Rocker Arms Back Off. I Also Pulled The Heads Off And The Noticed The Cut Marks On The Pistons. That Wasnt Good, I Then Notices That The Valves Were Bent. So I Fixed All Of That And Put It All Back Together And It Runs Great. But I Would Listen To Bpopp When He Says Either Start Saving Your Money And Get A Replacement Engine Or Push It Off A Cliff. If I Would Have Known That It Would Have Took All Of The Money To Replace All Of The Parts That I Had To And All Of The Time In Pulling The Engine To Do It All I Would Have Definatly Bought A Engine Out Of A Wrecked Vehicle
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hoosier car doc
I Recently Tore Into A Diff. Assy. On One And Found Carrier And Pinion Bearings Failed. Along With That The Bearing Cup On The Driver's Side Had Started Spinning In The Case. The Only Way To Know, If You Have Already Rotated Your Tires In The Noise Elimination Process, Is To Dive Into The Rear End And Explore The Problem. Make Sure While The Driveshaft Is Removed To Check For Binding U-joints
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2002 Mercury Mountaineer Vibration
My Mountaineer now intermittently makes a rather loud engine compartment noise and the whole car progressively vibrates. After about 30 seconds, the noise and vibration seem to wear off, and there are no indication lights that anything is wrong. In reading the above threads, maybe it's the timing chain? I already took the car to the dealership when the car started acting up, but of course it would not make the noise when out on test ride, and the dealership did not offer any advice. The service manager himself drove the vehicle and told me basically to let the car break so they could figure out what was wrong with it. I really don't like that idea. What do other readers think?
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Well, the problem was not really a problem at all. The repair shop found that 3 of the brand new tires installed were the wrong size. Like 245 75R16 instead of 245 70R16. Took it back to the tire shop and they swapped out the 3 wrong tires, noise is gone. While I had it at the repair shop, they recommended changing the rear axle gear oil to synthetic with friction modifier. Our '02 has the 3.55 limited slip rear with the towing package. Remarkably, the rear gear oil changed removed all the slow turning vibration we had! So, really now all we have a problem with is one of the rear climate control motors making a clicking noise. My buddy who is a Ford mechanic said they are pretty easy to replace, so I'll probably tackle that this weekend.
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That's one unfortunate blow with your dealership. Try to get a second opinion from a trusted mechanic. Maybe he can dish out the real problem for you.
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Originally Posted by bpopp
dawnl, my 96,000 mile 99 Ford Explorer (4.0 SOHC) had the same issue for a while (at least a year). It had a rough idle when cold and wasn't running very well. I had it serviced several times during that time and unfortunately they never caught it. A few weeks ago I went out to my truck to start it. It made a pretty awful sound, died, and would not start again. A nearby Ford dealership told me it was a "complete engine failure" and quoted me $4700, before tax, for the replacement. I ended up having another mechanic (who confirmed that my valves were damaged) replace the engine with a low-mileage junkyard engine for around 2 grand.
If it's the same problem as mine, your mechanic is exactly right. This is a very common problem with some Ford engines. They actually extended the warranty on the repair to 72,000 miles for some 98-02 engines. As I understand it, they used a piece of plastic to keep the timing chain taut (Cam Tensioner). This piece fails, bits of plastic drop into the oil pan, the timing belt slips a little causing various engine problems, and eventually, when the chain gets loose enough it slips a tooth and the engine will eat itself. So if you are having this problem, you need to do something. Either fix it, start saving for a new engine, or dump the truck ASAP.
My new engine is running great, but unfortunately, a week after getting it back, the OD light flashed three times this morning when I shifted into drive. I'm going to pull the transmission pan off this weekend and see what I can see. :mad2:
not anymore. Ford just basically said sorry tough luck to you. Have a 02 with 63000 miles and they want 6500 for engine replacement. just a bunch of crooks. I'll never buy a ford again.
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I have an 02 Explorer that I am having some issues with. I have a humming sound that only happens when I steer to the right. It really sounds like it is in the front, not the rear. My dh has already replaced the wheel hub assembly, and that did nothing for the humming. Any other ideas on what it could be? I am trying to decide whether to keep and try to repair the problem or get rid of it now.
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2002 Explorer Window Switch
I have ready several posts which seem to mirror the problem I have with my 2002 Explorere drivers side window. I am trying to compare symptoms with others and comfirm that it is my switch and not the motor before I purchase the part to install. Anyone else have this issue? Can you give me details? Thank you.
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